How did you get into music? Did you grow up listening?
There's always music around. My mum was an avid collector of records and CDs, so there were always records on the turntables. I guess that's where I learned how to play with records...when I wasn't supposed to be!
I remember one day, I said to my dad when I was really young, "Hey, can I try to scratch with this?" And he's like, "yeah, sweet as". I grabbed Yellow Brick Road, Elton John, I put that on the turntable... at that point, I'd only ever heard scratching and I didn't really know how it was done. I knew that it needed a record and a record player, but I was literally grabbing the stylus and skating along the top of the record, which is what you don't do, that's how you break needles. I mean, that's how it started. There was just music around all the time, I learned how to play piano a bit when I was really young. On my 11th birthday, I got my first drum kit and became this drummer in the school band and was picking up guitar and stuff. When I was almost 14 years old, I was like, "Man, I'm sick of these drums. I just want to rock turntables." So, I sold all that equipment and being young and dumb, I spent it on things like liquor, and steak and cheese pies, but a lot of CDs as well. In hindsight, I wasted a lot of money, but at the same time, a lot of the CDs I bought, is what inspired me to keep going with it.
Did that become your education in a way?
Yeah, it definitely became a lot of my education. DJ Rectangle mixtapes were a definite push on that. Mix Master Mike, Beastie Boys. I mean, there's always like a million things. There was my sister's boyfriend at the time. He was quite a bit older, I think he was like 22 or something when I was 13 years old. We used to ride around in his car, listening to the Rectangle tapes with two 15 inch and subwoofers in the boot, and just doing what you do. That's been my education.
You were talking about Elton John, and you played the guitar and drums. Was there always a hip-hop influence there too?
So, hip-hop...no, in a way. But, yes. We used to ride around in my uncle's truck listening to NWA, Beastie Boys. At that time, the Mortal Combat soundtrack, I definitely remember that. It's a horrible, horrible soundtrack! Led Zeppelin, Black Sabbath. My uncle was definitely into all styles of music, but there was always a little bit of hip-hop thrown in. I think the thing that really turned me on my head was mid-90s, my dad copped a CD and it had 'Chains' by Che-Fu and DLT. I remember the first time hearing something that sounded that gritty, and being like "whoa, what is this?" Then it wasn't till years later that breakdancing became a cool thing. We all started like breaking at school and then the culture started to hold onto me, and I started copying a lot of these "Best Of Hip-Hop" CDs with things like KRS-One, House Of Pain, Noreaga and just all sorts of random stuff on them. It was at that point (about 11, 12 years old) where I started really spending a lot of time at the CD store trying to figure out what the cool things were. Just grab a stack of things, go to the listening booths and flick through, figure out what I wanted to buy. The culture of hip-hop wrangled me in. I was just this random hip-hop kid hanging out with all these rock-heads. It was quite a bizarre thing to think about now. And that's where my eclecticness comes from too, because I still listen to a bit of rock music here and there.